"I might not be a great friend, but I'm one hell of an enemy." -- Ben Holder, aka, "The Troublemaker"

Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Public Records

 The city wrote:

"In actuality, the city council can only vote to release personnel information to the public in one very narrow circumstance. The city council, in concurrence with the city manager,may vote to inform the public of: The employment or non-employment, promotion, demotion, suspension, or other disciplinary action, reinstatement,transfer,or termination of a city employee and the reasons for that personnel action."

 The release of information regarding employment or non-employment, promotion, demotion, suspension, or other disciplinary action, reinstatement,transfer,or termination of a city employee does NOT require any kind of vote by the council.  If that were true, then when did the city council vote to release the promotion of the newest Assistant Chief?  

Items for your information is below:
The following information with respect to each city employee is a matter of public record:
(1) Name.
(2) Age.
(3) Date of original employment or appointment to the service.
(4) The terms of any contract by which the employee is employed whether written or oral, past and current, to the extent that the city has the written contract or a record of the oral contract in its possession.
(5) Current position.
(6) Title.
(7) Current salary.
(8) Date and amount of each increase or decrease in salary with that municipality.
(9) Date and type of each promotion, demotion, transfer, suspension, separation, or other change in position classification with that municipality.
(10) Date and general description of the reasons for each promotion with that municipality.
(11) Date and type of each dismissal, suspension, or demotion for disciplinary reasons taken by the municipality. If the disciplinary action was a dismissal, a copy of the written notice of the final decision of the municipality setting forth the specific acts or omissions that are the basis of the dismissal.

(12) The office to which the employee is currently assigned.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't give up Ben, stay on them.

Anonymous said...

I read this about four times. I understand now and I hate to admit that Ben is spot on. I am confused about how stupid Denise really is? Is this politics or is she short bus material?

Anonymous said...

If our Interim City Manager was a trained Psychiatrist or Psychologist I am sure she would be better able to deal with Mr. Holder.

On his side of the "looking-glass" things are obviously much different than they are in the real world side.

I respect Mr. Holders right to express his sad and dark view of his world but the only real trouble in Greensboro is the trouble he makes.

The patience and courtesy he has been consistently shown by the City Council and the Manager's office is commendable. Were he dumb enough to take on private individuals or organizations he'd find it a whole new experience - and probably a very costly one.

Raise, check or fold Mr. Holder you're holding up the game - wasting tax payer money one your windmill tilting!

Here's a public information request for you: How much tax payer money has been wasted responding to Mr. Holders childish war on the City and its leadership?

Anonymous said...

Still doesn't make her assesment of public records law correct. The decision they made is clearly wrong and I think that is the larger issue.

Anonymous said...

"The patience and courtesy he has been consistently shown by the City Council and the Manager's office is commendable."

I don't see how sighting pretend laws is a good thing for our city manager to do.

Anonymous said...

HOW CAN YOU PISS AWAY MONEY BY ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR CITY GOVERMENT AND THEY ANSWER YOU WITH A SHOVEL FULL OF BULL SHIT.ITS THE TAX PAYERS MONEY THE CITY IS PISSING AWAY AND YOU THEY ARE PISSING ON BY NOT ANSWERING HONEST QUESTIONS.

Anonymous said...

THE POST BAD MOUTHING MR.HOLDER MUST BE FROM THE LAW FIRM OF DUMUS AND DUMB ASS,ATTORNEYS OF ILL WILL AND BROWN NOSEING.

Anonymous said...

The law that our city is sending Mr. Holder does not exist. I can comprehend the paragraph in question and he is correct in idetifying it as wrong.

The first part:

"In actuality, the city council can only vote to release personnel information to the public in one very narrow circumstance. The city council, in concurrence with the city manager,may vote to inform the public of:..."

The : in the paragraph is called a colon. Colon's are before a list or an explanation that is preceded by a clause that can stand by itself.

Think of the colon as a gate, inviting one to go on:

There is only one thing left to do now: confess while you still have time.

The police review board includes the following people:

the mayor
the chief of police
the fire chief

The colon in the paragraph means that the legal department thinks that the following things can only be released by a council vote and concurrence by the city manager.

The employment or non-employment, promotion, demotion, suspension, or other disciplinary action, reinstatement,transfer,or termination of a city employee and the reasons for that personnel action.

That is not true and I appreciate Holder taking this item to task.

Here's a public information request for you: How much tax payer money has been wasted on Mr. Hinsons childish war on the City and its leadership?